Big Book "Nut"
There are lots of non-alcoholic people, heavy drinkers perhaps, who, for some strange reason, still insist that AA let them become members and go to meetings everyday.
Wait. Hold on. I promise to continue on that thought – but before I do let me explain something first.
I’m a Big Book “Nut” – the kind your “Middle of the Road solutions” based friends think you should stay away from – who thinks that our wonderfully spiritually volume contains the clear-cut directions with regard to AAs Program of recovery and the Fellowship as well.
I sometimes blog stuff here that are mere observations and experiences that I as a recovered alkie have had. If you aren’t doing what I am doing and living a design for living which I am living – then your expedience is recovery is probably going to be entirely different than mine. If you say you will NEVER recover – I BELIEVE YOU!
If you say you solved your drinking problem in a different way – I believe THAT TOO!
(There is a “complaint department” link to the left. I welcome your civil disagreements)
I have been blessed with incredible opportunities to speak from the podiums – and I do so on God’s time not my own. I have the time and I have the Big Book for the message – and for these reasons there is likely no sordid spot on this planet that I would not go to – in order to assist others in maintaining our Primary Purpose. (I get to go to nice places too.)
Similarly there is probably no account out of the past or present that I will not tell of and that includes mentioning some of the people with whom I used to drink. Not by name of course. But I use others stories and how they COMPARE (yes “compare”) with my own to show the difference between alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinking. Without that knowledge and ability to articulate it – I am useless because there can be no identifying.
With that said, now let me start up again.
Some of the people with whom I used to drink seemed at times obsessed (Mental obsession) with having a drink, yet could stop once taking it (Willpower). I conclude they have no allergy to alcohol. (Physical craving)
Then there were others who once the decided to take a drink, and took it, COULDN’T stop.
I concluded they may have HAD the allergy, but their decision to NOT take a drink or to TAKE a drink was their own. They sanely refrained from taking the first drink at times when it might be prove inconvenient or detrimental.
I, as a real alkie had suffered both the inability to NOT take the first drink COUPLED with not be able to stop, once I took it. That’s Our description of the alcoholic. Both conditions (mental & physical) need to be present in order to fit “our description of the alcoholic”, which to me is only description that counts and describes the person for whom our Program is designed.
I suppose it all hinges on whether or not you believe what our Big Book says about alcoholism.
A person who has the power of choice over whether
or not he takes the first drink is NOT an alcoholic, even if he cannot stop once he takes the first drink. (Has the craving)…….And a person who has no choice over whether or not he takes a drink (Mental obsession) but IS able to stop on his own will, is ALSO NOT an alcoholic.
Either of these folks may have a problem with alcohol – but they are not alcoholics of the type for whom AA was created. This of course is according to the authors of our Big Book, Alcoholics Anonymous, not me. Although I do agree.
So now we are back again to all of those non-alcoholic people, heavy drinkers, who, for some reason still insist that AA allow them to called themselves members. AND WE DO IT! And they come to meetings everyday telling non-alcoholic experiences with their drinking AS IF it had something to do with alcoholism. And it doesn’t
They might have a problem with alcohol, but they don’t HAVE TO come to AA to solve it — but they do anyway — and they are firmly supported by those other non-alcoholics who have previously managed to squeeze their way into AA and wave that short form Tradition Three around to do it.
Peace,
Danny S
Have Your OWN Experience
The difference between recovering and recovered is not a difference of opinion on word definitions. It is a difference in experiences!
I would never tell someone that THEY haven’t recovered if they say they haven’t. Why is it then that they want to tell ME that I haven’t recovered, when I say THAT is MY experience?
Mighty arrogant of them would’t you say? How can they speak for me? How can they tell me what MY experience is?
It is tantamount to a cancer patient telling me they beat cancer and me insisting “no you haven’t” I have cancer and I haven’t beat it – therefore YOU will not either!
Crazy nut bags!
Even worse – they TELL THE WHOLE WORLD that EVERYONE in the Fellowship is crazy, sick and un-recovered! If those outside folks believe them, it affects MY relationships with those outsiders.
Even worse than worse – They tell newcomers, who have just been given hope fr
om me and people like me who are sponsoring and twelve stepping out of the Big Book this stuff. Then they go to a meeting, all full of hope that they can – if they are willing to go to any length – recover. These sick, hopeful folks get their hope dashed to pieces by some asshole who’s been put behind a microphone (So he can get what HE needs)
The experience of what it is like to have recovered is indelibly chronicled for permanent record in the book “Alcoholics Anonymous”
If you are reading this – and you wish to argue the point PLEASE go argue with your Big Book. THAT’S where the case is made in words.
Peace,
Danny S
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