Frunobulax57′s – Recovered Alcoholic

Alcoholism

Is God "Board Certified"?

Intervention
Part II

An ad ran here on the Peninsula of Doom cable system a few nights ago – Monday, I believe. I think it came from The Drug Free America Foundation – if not then some other similar organization. The message was “Don’t wait till you hit bottom”.

Yes, I know they are talking about drug addicts – but they ALSO think that alcoholism and drug addiction are the same thing. So when DFA or whoever they are, is addressing drug addiction they are also telling alcoholics the same exact things. The point is, here is a message that is in direct conflict with what we know works for real alcoholics and it is being broadcast over mass media.

They believe that the solution to alcoholism might include not waiting to hit bottom. Hmm . . . could it be that they want you to come “in” while you can still pay? That would be better – considering the financial limitations of public assistance and insurance companies.

Here’s a bit of Bill W’s experience with “hitting bottom”: “Why all this insistence that every AA must hit bottom first? The answer is that few people will sincerely tried to practice the AA program unless they have hit bottom. For practicing AA’s remaining eleven steps means the adoption of attitudes and actions that almost no alcoholic who is still drinking can dream of taking.” 12 Steps and 12 Traditions page 24

And “all this insistence” is quite accurate. There’s a lot of it in AA.

This “not waiting to hit bottom” idea, mind you, come from folks who USE the AA Fellowship as their own “free” aftercare program. Yet they do not believe or prescribe that same ideologies or procedures of that fellowship. Is any wonder that so many real alcoholics get nothing but confused and dead?

We are talking about people here who have NO IDEA what an alcoholic bottom is. They are thinking in terms of material loss, feelings of self pity and grief – calling these “hitting bottom“.

If you are a real alcoholic who has hit a real alcoholic bottom, and are reading this then you know that these things, as painful as they are – as horrific as they can be – can still only be considered a cakewalk when compared to the true alcoholic bottom that we experience before we turn our lives and wills over to God and recover. And if not then you are dead and unable to read this anyway.

Experience, the kind that is sometimes grim and oftentimes joyous, tells us that recovery is best left to the Pros. And the real Pros are other alcoholics who have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of body and mind through a means that does NOT entail human intervention. It is about Divine intervention.

So what if the above mentioned ad or ads like it were wildly successful? Suppose thousands of alcoholics who would have others eventually had their last drink – the one that brings them to the abject bottom – the soul sickness, of the alcoholic bottom – were prevented from having that last drink?

They’ll never recover.

When we intervene with an alcoholic’s progression we intervene with his recovery. And he’s dead. The problem is that interventionists have a whole ‘nother definition of a “bottom” than we have.

Here’s a good description of a bottom in the Big Book: “ . . . . unable to imagine life either with alcohol or without it. Then he will know loneliness such as few do. He will be at the jumping-off place. He will wish for the end.” (152:0)

How you ever been unable to imagine even living anymore AND been unable to imagine dying either? Honestly now. This isn’t one your Open Discussion meetings where bullshit flies like mosquitoes over a Georgia swamp in August.

Did that type of loneliness even come CLOSE to the imagery of the lonely guy sitting in a full Yankee Stadium? (Another silly-ass fellowship analogy with which non-alcoholics can easily identify.)

Or were you just without much socialization, friends and loved ones – who had abandoned you or became distant because you’re such an asshole?

Maybe you were just “sick and tired of being sick and tired”? SHIT. I wish i could have stopped drinking just because I was sick and tired of doing it. I was there for YEARS, man – and still I drank. That’s no incentive to stop for a real McCoy!

You think that either of these even approaches the loneliness and pain of an alcoholic at his bottom then you are truly blessed. Ignorant – but blessed. Let’s call it blissfully ignorant. Your solution is simple: Just put the plug in the jug. If that’s too difficult then get yourself holed up in a rehab somewhere to assist. You don’t need AA.

Recovery is best left to the Pros. And the Pros are other alcoholics who have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of body and mind through a means that does NOT entail human intervention. It is about Divine intervention.

Believe me, God is not “Board Certified. ” And neither are “we“. “We have recovered, and have been given the power to help others.”

We doan need no steenkeen certificate.


Peace,

Danny S

* And neither are “we“. “We have recovered, and have been given the power to help others.” We doan need no steenkeen certificate.

January 16, 2008 Posted by | Bottoms, Hitting Bottom, Intervention, Suicide | 10 Comments

How to Kill A Real Alcoholc


Intervention
PART I

Ever seen them on TV? Ever had one? Amazing. Good entertainment. Do you realize that in the time it takes to plan and implement an “intervention” that an alcoholic could have competed all twelve step and recovered?

I kid you not.

  • Bill Wilson did it in under two weeks
  • Dr. Bob in under a month
  • ALL of the early co-founders in under a month.
  • Me? I’m a little slow – forty four days. A lot of unnecessary pain and suffering was had during that time, but none of us have done this perfectly. “We are not saints” and certainly not I.

I look at these people on the television and think, “Man I hope these aren’t real alcoholics.” I hope they are all just hard drinking drug abusers – because if they are not real alcoholics, then this sort of thing may work for them. But if they are the real McCoys – can kill them.

Interventions prevent an alcoholic from hitting bottom. That’s bad. FAMILY hit their bottom – not necessarily when the alkie hits his. And those “bottoms” are not the same. Families are miserable, hurt and tormented so they are going to force the issue. Implementing an intervention may be out of love – of course it is – but it’s also out of ignorance. The counseling that a family can receive as the result of an intervention may be good for them even if it is a poor substitute for the spiritual steps that they could take instead.

In AA, when the Big Book directions are followed, the whole family can benefit for the from SAME EXACT process. But that alkie may not have had his last drink – but hell or high water we are going see that he’s had it.

Non alcoholics cannot hit an alcoholic bottom. The lowest they can possibly get is dead. “Dead” is a break for the real alkie. If you aren’t one – you can never understand this. If you are not a real alkie what seems to be the worst kind of life – one of loss, poverty, self-pity and mental misery is a fucking cake walk to us real alkies.

We might feel bad for you when we hear of your hardships, your relationship difficulties, your financial problems – the children and spouses you’ve harmed – but we also then know that you have not known the true alcoholic bottom. An Alcoholic bottom is worse than these. It is a sickness of soul and spirit and it does not rely upon material and emotional losses to cut it’s wounds. It is powerfully, almost intelligently debilitating on it own, corrupting, imprisoning and torturing the spiritual of being that the simple tears of self-pity cannot touch.

There IS a bottom worse than death. It’s living in a place that can only be entered through the ages old iron gates of mental insanity – whereupon once entering, the afflicted must adapt and survive on terrain so treacherous that only a tiny percentage of those who enter ever find the way back. Even fewer ever live long or happily.

Anyone, alcoholic or not, can experience such soul sickness – but alcoholics for sure will. You want to help a hard drinker? Write a check and buy an “Intervention”. You want to help a real alcoholic? Bring him to God.

Peace,

Danny S

January 5, 2008 Posted by | Bottoms, Hitting Bottom, Intervention | 2 Comments

Intervention

Tomorrow, December 31 – “Intervention”

Have you ever seen them on TV? Ever had one? Amazing. Good entertainment.

Board Registered Interventionists. Registered Addiction Specialists and Certified National Drug & Alcohol Interventionists. All very hoidy toidy and “official” sounding.

Do you realize that in half the time it takes to plan and implement an “INTERVENTION” that other alcoholics are completing ALL TWELVE STEPS and coming away fully recovered?

They never have to enter a treatment center – never have to move away from home and into a “sober” house for “protection” or even pay one red cent. They never have to lie on an application saying they are “homeless” so that the taxpayer has to foot the rehabilitation expenses either. (Did you know about THAT common scam?)

And this option is available to ALL – and will work any alcoholic who has the capacity for honesty. They don’t even have to be honest - most of them aren’t anyway – only have the capacity for honesty and be willing to go to any length.

Sometimes ANY LENGTH means telling the treatment center counselors to GO SCREW!

I kid you not.

Tomorrows article will tell you the TRUTH about “Pay For Service” interventions and why if you are are real alcoholic how the charlatans who run these “Pay for Service” business ventures, such as seen on cable TV channels – can kill you.

Peace,

Danny S

December 30, 2007 Posted by | Intervention | Leave a Comment

Intervention

Tomorrow, December 31 – “Intervention”

Have you ever seen them on TV? Ever had one? Amazing. Good entertainment.

Board Registered Interventionists. Registered Addiction Specialists and Certified National Drug & Alcohol Interventionists. All very hoidy toidy and “official” sounding.

Do you realize that in half the time it takes to plan and implement an “INTERVENTION” that other alcoholics are completing ALL TWELVE STEPS and coming away fully recovered?

They never have to enter a treatment center – never have to move away from home and into a “sober” house for “protection” or even pay one red cent. They never have to lie on an application saying they are “homeless” so that the taxpayer has to foot the rehabilitation expenses either. (Did you know about THAT common scam?)

And this option is available to ALL – and will work any alcoholic who has the capacity for honesty. They don’t even have to be honest - most of them aren’t anyway – only have the capacity for honesty and be willing to go to any length.

Sometimes ANY LENGTH means telling the treatment center counselors to GO SCREW!

I kid you not.

Tomorrows article will tell you the TRUTH about “Pay For Service” interventions and why if you are are real alcoholic how the charlatans who run these “Pay for Service” business ventures, such as seen on cable TV channels – can kill you.

Peace,

Danny S

December 30, 2007 Posted by | Intervention | Leave a Comment

   

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